tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1759526510829765601.comments2023-10-27T07:37:17.008-07:00heteroseparatist.com blogMantronikkhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15941353160305950608noreply@blogger.comBlogger1015125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1759526510829765601.post-56747325061045777712016-06-22T02:53:48.279-07:002016-06-22T02:53:48.279-07:00@Matt
I've waited long enough to close this d...@Matt<br /><br />I've waited long enough to close this debate due to your lack of response. You are more than welcome to comment on other posts, but this page is now closed to you.<br /><br /> When I created the word "heteroseparatist," I really did my homework. There is no hate in heteroseparatism. This is what stymies my haters/enemies. <br /><br />Looking forward to your future comments.Mantronikkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15941353160305950608noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1759526510829765601.post-87740604041363700592016-06-16T13:11:24.230-07:002016-06-16T13:11:24.230-07:00Some on the Left are still decrying "Islamoph...Some on the Left are still decrying "Islamophobia" after this has happened. As a person who would be part of the LGBT "Community" if I bothered to claim it as a part of my identity, I'm annoyed if not angry. In favor of defending Islam (while placing blame on Christianity), those who were victims of the shooting and their peers have been thrown under the bus, as it were. -_-;IZZY-CHAN13https://www.blogger.com/profile/06644365053426749354noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1759526510829765601.post-71549638376579343092016-06-12T12:41:31.315-07:002016-06-12T12:41:31.315-07:00Hey sorry for the long delay, I'm in the midst...Hey sorry for the long delay, I'm in the midst of painting my house. I'll try to post within the week.Matthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08032465888446381199noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1759526510829765601.post-822069765901928912016-05-27T09:21:38.727-07:002016-05-27T09:21:38.727-07:00@Matt... Look for a detailed response, in a new p...@Matt... Look for a detailed response, in a new post, on Monday, 30 May.Mantronikkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15941353160305950608noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1759526510829765601.post-66310875423917047982016-05-24T07:16:39.833-07:002016-05-24T07:16:39.833-07:00I'm crafting a response and plan to post it wi...I'm crafting a response and plan to post it within 48 hours.Mantronikkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15941353160305950608noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1759526510829765601.post-7369606337417345722016-05-20T14:51:08.568-07:002016-05-20T14:51:08.568-07:00I'm 34.
Given that the thesis for our discuss...I'm 34.<br /><br />Given that the thesis for our discussion boils down to "I (Matt) believe you (Mantronikk) regularly omit relevant information when drawing conclusions about glbt people," I'm interested in seeing how you'll try to use my age to shed light on that. And I'm definitely interested in seeing how you will manage to avoid logical fallacies while doing so.<br /><br />Also, if possible, I would appreciate it if you would stop using constant loaded questions. They are nothing more than a distracting logical fallacy, and do not add anything to a real discussion.<br /><br />"Why withhold a fact from me? Do you wish to withhold the truth?"<br />I explained my reasoning for delaying very clearly in my last post. So contrary to what you implied here, you knew exactly why I delayed, and it was not because I was trying to withhold the truth. Your implication was quite disingenuous, I must say.<br /><br />Would you finally be willing to address my question, about the connection between the man masquerading as a young girl and body modification? This is literally the fourth time I've brought it up. You seem to have quite the selective reading/hearing.<br />Matthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08032465888446381199noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1759526510829765601.post-8027297621034295922016-05-17T07:51:59.822-07:002016-05-17T07:51:59.822-07:00But your age is a fact. Why withhold a fact from ...But your age is a fact. Why withhold a fact from me? Do you wish to withhold the truth? My request to you is a simple inquiry for a fact; please tell me how old you are.Mantronikkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15941353160305950608noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1759526510829765601.post-74247254061666495112016-05-16T21:08:24.542-07:002016-05-16T21:08:24.542-07:00I didn't answer the question because I know ho...I didn't answer the question because I know how easy it is for people to fall into the trap of logical fallacies (ad hominem being just one such fallacy). And I fear that you might be about to fall into that trap if I tell you, since I just don't see the scenario where knowing my age could possibly help this discussion in a constructive way.<br /><br />But if you truly want to know, I will tell you. Just mention it again in your response, and I'll put my age in my next post. I didn't put it in this post solely because I wanted to raise the possibility of logical fallacies first, in case it was enough to make you reconsider your desire to know.<br /><br />Also, is there any chance you can answer my question as well? I've brought the topic up twice now, but you haven't even acknowledged it yet.Matthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08032465888446381199noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1759526510829765601.post-12740348579676129642016-05-16T18:18:19.551-07:002016-05-16T18:18:19.551-07:00Your age is critical to my response. Why not answ...Your age is critical to my response. Why not answer such a simple question?Mantronikkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15941353160305950608noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1759526510829765601.post-41919700043673293632016-05-16T11:13:11.346-07:002016-05-16T11:13:11.346-07:00I'm not exactly sure how that would help. If w...I'm not exactly sure how that would help. If we start talking about the details of who I am, the only possible way that could impact the discussion would be in an ad hominem sense - and your blog indicates those arguments are not allowed here. And I definitely agree with you on that point - ad hominem arguments only serve to distract us from real discussion.<br /><br />If we can go back a bit, I'd appreciate it if you'd try to tackle one of the questions I asked a few posts above. Can you talk about the question I asked earlier, about how the man who claims to be a little girl relates to body modification? The inclusion of him seemed like a bit of a tangent to me.Matthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08032465888446381199noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1759526510829765601.post-26738997728179680512016-05-16T04:35:45.327-07:002016-05-16T04:35:45.327-07:00Can you tell me your age Matt?Can you tell me your age Matt?Mantronikkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15941353160305950608noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1759526510829765601.post-72211186399305803192016-05-11T16:01:35.937-07:002016-05-11T16:01:35.937-07:00If you google "define heterosexual," it ...If you google "define heterosexual," it says - "(of a person) sexually attracted to people of the opposite sex." <br /><br />That's the same definition I go by (as does, from my understanding at least, the vast majority of the English speaking world).<br /><br />But you seem to have added the concept of gender into your definition. And this confused me because I have yet to meet any other person, Christian or non-Christian, who defines the word in the same way you do.<br /><br />Say there is a man who is attracted to women, and also identifies as a woman.<br /><br />By your definition, that person would be non-heterosexual.<br /><br />Other Christians would call this person a heterosexual man with severe psychological issues, who is in need of counselling.<br /><br />I guess I understand your definition now, it just caught me off guard since I didn't expect that the term "heterosexual" would mean different things to both of us.Matthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08032465888446381199noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1759526510829765601.post-42126526270471142312016-05-09T14:21:07.508-07:002016-05-09T14:21:07.508-07:00My Lord Jesus Matt! What is YOUR definition of a ...My Lord Jesus Matt! What is YOUR definition of a heterosexual?!??Mantronikkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15941353160305950608noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1759526510829765601.post-15794406636573016052016-05-08T06:28:13.425-07:002016-05-08T06:28:13.425-07:00Please help me understand then, because I never in...Please help me understand then, because I never intended to miscategorize.<br /><br />I think my confusion is rooted in your definition of heterosexual, which seems to be unique to you and different from the dictionary definition. Maybe if you can more fully explain how you define sexual orientation that would help?Matthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08032465888446381199noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1759526510829765601.post-8932370331152771212016-05-08T04:38:43.998-07:002016-05-08T04:38:43.998-07:00When I say non-heterosexual, I mean exactly that a...When I say non-heterosexual, I mean exactly that and nothing more. You are not understanding what I'm saying. You are altering and miscatagorizing what I'm saying.Mantronikkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15941353160305950608noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1759526510829765601.post-27391454004362098132016-05-07T09:23:18.859-07:002016-05-07T09:23:18.859-07:00Interesting, I've never heard the term heteros...Interesting, I've never heard the term heterosexual defined that way by anyone. That helps clarifies things for me - for the purposes of this discussion (since our discussion is about transgender issues), when you use the term non-heterosexual I'll interpret that as being synonymous with the term transgender. I'm just glad I understand now.<br /><br />So back to your post:<br />"Anyhow, the additional level of insanity of glbt body modifiers can be seen here and here"<br /><br />The first link was to a video about the exact same person we've been talking about this whole time, so that didn't add any new information.<br /><br />The second link was about a man claiming he is a little girl - yet your sentence was talking about the insanity of glbt body modifiers. Are we assuming that man has had genital surgery?Matthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08032465888446381199noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1759526510829765601.post-87566073564833284032016-05-05T07:08:23.523-07:002016-05-05T07:08:23.523-07:00@Matt. It's been twelve days now. I'm be...@Matt. It's been twelve days now. I'm beginning to think that you all emotion and no substance.Mantronikkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15941353160305950608noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1759526510829765601.post-13621845104924169462016-04-24T10:41:31.064-07:002016-04-24T10:41:31.064-07:00Must I explain "heterosexual" to you? A...Must I explain "heterosexual" to you? A man who identifies as a man who is attracted to women, and a woman who identifies as a woman who is attracted to men. My point was; heterosexuals are not in as much denial as non-heterosexuals. Also, I was specifically talking about "transgenders," but my blog covers all glbt disinformation.Mantronikkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15941353160305950608noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1759526510829765601.post-85435832244414451752016-04-22T14:40:17.179-07:002016-04-22T14:40:17.179-07:00First of all, thanks for letting me know I should ...First of all, thanks for letting me know I should post here instead. :)<br /><br />Based on what you said, I'm not getting the impression that our main sticking point lies in the 7 statements I made per se...instead, I'm getting the impression that you think my 7 statements missed your main thoughts/message.<br /><br />As I read your post, I realized there are some things that are fuzzy/unclear for me. I'll need a bit of clarification if I'm to respond well. I'm going to tackle everything you said, but I'll just ask one thing at a time for simplicity sake.<br /><br /><br />"I have yet to see a heterosexual body modifier go so far as to deny their own species or age."<br /><br />The mention of heterosexual people threw me off because:<br />- There are men attracted to men who claim they identify as women. (ie gay men who later go on to identify as transgender)<br />- There are men attracted to women who claim they identify as women. (ie straight men who later go on to identify as transgender)<br />(And the same can be said for women who identify as transgender)<br /><br />Can you clarify/define what population you'd like to talk about in this conversation? Transgender individuals specifically? Glbt individuals in general? Knowing will help me as we continue to discuss.<br /><br />(Just to warn you in advance - I'm going away for the next week, so I won't be able to respond for awhile)Matthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08032465888446381199noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1759526510829765601.post-56532732303908199402016-04-22T06:38:15.794-07:002016-04-22T06:38:15.794-07:00@ Matt. See 22 April post. Having trouble with po...@ Matt. See 22 April post. Having trouble with posting with Blogger.Mantronikkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15941353160305950608noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1759526510829765601.post-2924486130968310042016-04-19T07:20:43.279-07:002016-04-19T07:20:43.279-07:00I'm constructing a response. Planning to post...I'm constructing a response. Planning to post it on Friday, 22 April 2016.Mantronikkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15941353160305950608noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1759526510829765601.post-64531611125320651332016-04-16T09:11:59.531-07:002016-04-16T09:11:59.531-07:00Sorry for the delay, life is very busy.
Here'...Sorry for the delay, life is very busy.<br /><br />Here's an example of a post where it appears the facts do not support your conclusions as you imply they do. <br /><br />The obvious madness of the "transgender mind"<br />Dated April 9, 2016<br />Obvious facts:<br />1. This man has made extreme alterations to his body (ears and nose removed, tongue split, many tattoos) to look like a dragon.<br />2. This man also calls himself female/transgender.<br />3. This man’s obsession with body modification is indicative of mental illness (I know some might debate this, but I think you and I agree on this point).<br /><br />What you had to say about this:<br />- Transgender people are "mad" (according to your title)<br />- "The glbt community is still reaching new depths."<br /><br />I did some quick online digging, and what I found allowed me to produce an expanded list of facts:<br />1. This man has made extreme alterations to his body to look like a dragon. <br />2. This man also calls himself female/transgender/glbt.<br />3. This man’s obsession with body modification is indicative of mental illness. <br />4. Most glbt people are repulsed by his body modification and indicate that they believe something is wrong with him/he is mentally ill. (I looked in the comment sections of various glbt websites I could find)<br />5. There is a community of people online dedicated to body modification. (I noticed "body modification" was mentioned in the article you linked, so I googled it)<br />6. Instead of acknowledging that he is mentally ill, the body modification community embraces him, glorifies him, encourages his behavior, and calls him “beautiful.” (I found some body modification websites but could only access very limited portions of the sites without becoming a member - so I had to rely on a Facebook page devoted to body modification)<br />7. The community of people that engages in/glorifies extreme body modification appears to have a significant proportion of non-glbt people (it actually appeared to me that non-glbt people made up the vast majority of this community, but since I don’t have great data to back that up, “significant proportion” seemed a more honest statement).<br /><br />So if I were to try and produce a summary of all this information, here’s what I would say:<br />This man is mentally ill (fact 3), and one of the ways this mental illness manifests is in the way he mutilates his body (fact 1). This man identifies with the glbt community, and the transgender community (fact 2). However, the glbt community agrees that his behaviour is a manifestation of mental illness, and is not normal. Meanwhile, he belongs to a community of people that appears to have a significant proportion of non-glbt people (fact 7), who deny/glorify his mental illness (fact 6).<br />In light of all this, it seems there is insufficient evidence to claim that his mental illnesses is connected to his claim that he is transgender. His mental illness appears to come from another source.<br /><br />So you asked if I found anything untrue – in this specific example, it was not true that the facts of this case led to your conclusions.<br /><br />Your claims that transgender people are “mad” and “the glbt community is still reaching new depths” may be true, but this case can’t be used as evidence for that. <br /><br />The reason I raised this in the first place - many of your posts could be deconstructed in the same way. And this means that many people who read your page don't take it seriously, because they recognize that you're ignoring some information to reach your conclusions.Matthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08032465888446381199noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1759526510829765601.post-6446116021738415972016-04-12T00:34:43.087-07:002016-04-12T00:34:43.087-07:00"No and yes". Why the "yes"? ..."No and yes". Why the "yes"? What is untrue on my blog that causes you to say "yes".Mantronikkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15941353160305950608noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1759526510829765601.post-414015514185674972016-04-11T14:28:56.478-07:002016-04-11T14:28:56.478-07:00I'm going to try really hard to rein in my nat...I'm going to try really hard to rein in my natural tendency to write massive posts, and instead be to-the-point. So my answer:<br /><br />No and yes. The concrete, physical facts are all true, but I feel you sometimes don't take all available information into account, which leads you to draw untrue conclusions from those facts.<br /><br />I'm guessing this is a major point we're going to disagree on.<br /><br />Let me know what you think we should do next. If you want to respond to my answer right away, fantastic. If you want me to give an example of my thinking so you have something more substantial to respond to, can do. I recognize my answer might be hard to respond to without an example.Matthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08032465888446381199noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1759526510829765601.post-40824203367258032862016-04-10T23:03:17.274-07:002016-04-10T23:03:17.274-07:00Let's start over then, one question at a time....Let's start over then, one question at a time... Have you found anything untrue on my blog?Mantronikkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15941353160305950608noreply@blogger.com